Ok, I will take this as my cue to end my self-imposed exile here.
Will someone be assigned to study with me and take me out in service?
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Are Posters Deleted Forever?
by Simon inthis is a moderated forum and unfortunately it's occassionally necessary to deactivate accounts of posters who purposefully and/or repeatedly violate the simple & sensible posting guidelines, there to ensure that the forum is a welcoming and friendly place to visit.
most deletions are not permanent however.
we appreciate that some are the results of misunderstandings or personal circumstances coloring people's behavior.
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Faithful & Discreet Slave - NEW LIGHT
by Black Man inok........has anybody been hearing rumors about new light on the faithful and discreet slave teaching?
i recently talked to one of my ex-bethel buddies and he said that an adjustment has been in the works for awhile now and that the new light for the fds will be that they will receive their appointment before the great tribulation and that they didn't receive it at 1918-19 as previously taught.
their works (global preaching work, worldwide growth, etc) up until the point of the great tribulation will show that they have been faithful and discreet in caring for the lord's interests and worthy of "official" appointment before the end comes.
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Just to clarify things a bit...
I thought the teaching was that there was always a F&DS, i.e. down through the centuries, there were always at least a few faithful ones on the earth. It was just that it was not until 1918, or 1919, that there was an inspection, and additional responsibilites were given to the F&DS slave.
So really, all that is changing is that they are saying that this inspection is a future event, which is how it is described in Matthew anyway.
Anyway, as the generation change has proved, they can spin any yarn they want and 99% of todays dubs will swallow it without question. They have had it beat into their heads since 1980 that the Org is not to be questioned, therefore most of the ones left in the Org do not question.
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I can't believe Amazon.com is selling this trash.
by JeffT inhave a barf bag and your blood pressure meds handy before you open this.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2-2003391229,00.html.
i think we should let amazon know that promoting the abuse of young children is as bad as abusing them yourself.
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Rem, what planet are you from?
It would be censorship because they would be inconsistent on their stance of making all ideas available (if that is their stance).
Amazon does not have a stance or charter that involves making all ideas available. Amazon is a business, comprende? Their charter or mission, is to make money, no more, no less.
In this case they have made the conscious decision to distribute - and profit from - a publication that advocates and attempts to justify behavior that is morally reprehensible to 99.9999% of the general public, and is generally illegal in most parts of the world. Many people here( and elsewhere, I am sure) are outraged by this decision. When corporations make decisions like this, they often-times will have to face consequences like this: angry customers, boycotts, negative pr, etc. This is why most companies claim to have ethics or standards that they attempt to abide by. It is not a perfect system, but it is better than nothing.
Why do you have a problem with this? And don't start with the noble "ideas want to be free" or "slippery slope" type arguments. There is no government-mandated censorship issue here, this is no lofty "diversity of opinions" battle. Its a big company making a bone-head business decision.
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Paradise lost - found!
by dmouse inhey, my mum was having a clear-out today and decided to throw away her old society books (she ain't in now...yippee).. i was helping and came across an old 'paradise lost - paradise regained' book that we used to study as a family when i was just a nipper.. it's in remarkably good condition considering five kids used to man-handle it about 30 years ago.
it wasn't a children's book really, but the simple language used, to appeal to all sorts of laymen, made it suitable for that purpose.. scanning through i came across loads of pictures that really brought memories flooding back, i'll post some more when i get the time.. somebody recently posted a thread about the jw belief that dinosaurs were about at the same time as humans.
well the picture on the inside cover shows a dinosaur (top left) wandering about the desert and people too.
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OK I followed the link, duh. I thought the story was aimed at JWs, actually it is aimed at any religion. The author also has some variations for specific religions. Here is the dub one:
Jehovah's Witnesses - Everybody in town should kiss Hank's ass, but only 144 are going to get a million dollars after Hank burns the town down, which we think will be Real Soon Now. Then he'll kick the shit out of anyone who didn't kiss his ass, and send the rest to a nicer, newer town. Here, have a pamphlet; it describes what we think we mean. We'll be back tomorrow to tell you why everyone else is kissing Hank's ass wrong.
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Paradise lost - found!
by dmouse inhey, my mum was having a clear-out today and decided to throw away her old society books (she ain't in now...yippee).. i was helping and came across an old 'paradise lost - paradise regained' book that we used to study as a family when i was just a nipper.. it's in remarkably good condition considering five kids used to man-handle it about 30 years ago.
it wasn't a children's book really, but the simple language used, to appeal to all sorts of laymen, made it suitable for that purpose.. scanning through i came across loads of pictures that really brought memories flooding back, i'll post some more when i get the time.. somebody recently posted a thread about the jw belief that dinosaurs were about at the same time as humans.
well the picture on the inside cover shows a dinosaur (top left) wandering about the desert and people too.
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dmouse:
I was wondering, apart from such pictures, did the Society ever say anything about dinosaurs being destroyed in the flood IN PRINT.
Check the Aid book, under Flood. It mentions there that the dinosaurs died out, at the latest, at the time of the flood.
Elsewhere:
ROTFLMAO!!!!! That story is hilarious!!! Where did you find it?????
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Data Protection entry for WTB&TS of Britain
by nicolaou inbusiness or other contacts .
business associates and other professional advisers.
voluntary and charitable organisations.
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PURPOSE 9
Crime Prevention and Prosecution of Offenders
hahahahahahahaha
yeah that will happen!!!
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Can "Born-Into-Its" Ever Be Happy?
by Englishman injust wondering....take a 40 year old male ('cos he's an ex-elder!
) who's been born a dub.
he becomes disenchanted with dubdom and eventually decides to leave.
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Its like you people are reading my mind!!!
Eman, as a born--into-it, pushing 40, I have the same questions. I notice most of the ones that are replying in the affirmative to your question are much younger(I'm looking at you, Tink!!)
So many things that have been missed, most of which are simply no longer attainable. A person has grown up with all the promises dangled in front of them, only now to realize what a fantasy it all was. Yes, you can go on, you can start over. But how do you reconcile to the fact that arguably your very best years were wasted, and now they are gone? How do you cope with the idea that you are not going to cheat death, you are getting older, that this life is all there is?????
Gary,
I also appreciate the quote on goals you posted. the part about depression being a result is very true.
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Will the WTS Say that this News Article is from Satan?
by Funchback inat the recent district convention, it was hammered home time and again.. at the meetings, it is stated from the platform frequently.. the media is a tool of satan and we shouldn't believe everything we read about jws in the media.. however, in the wts' mind, only the negative media should not be believed.
but, if the media is positive, it will soon be printed in a wt magazine or read from the platform at a kingdom hall near you.. ----------------------------------------------.
http://www.nationnews.com/storyview.cfm?record=41162§ion=lo.
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The dollar or two I give for an Awake or Watchtower magazine, is not simply to get them to move on, but I do find some thought-provoking articles in both publications.
A buck or two!!!! Then she wonders why they keep calling on her!!!!!
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FASCISM VS THEOCRACY - children are intimidated to begin service early
by garybuss infascism.
fascism
fascism
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Gary,
Another awesome piece of writing!! Excellent comparision!!!
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Watchtower Society joins Political Lobby !
by Amazing injehovah's witnesses in russia are working with scientology, the unification church, mormons and others in a joint political effort to lobby the russian duma (similar to the us congress) for certain issues.
the name of this joint political lobby in russua is:
public committee for the defense of freedom of conscience.
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Amazing,
Very interesting read.
One question, is there any other reference other than the theonet article that can substantiate the Watchtower's affiliation with this organization?